Get backlinks from pages that have backlinks.
Posted Sunday, December 3rd, 2006. Filed under Google.
Last week we released a handful of new SEO tools and updated some older ones. One of these has quickly become my new favorite: the Strongest Subpages tool, which helps you find the best pages to get links from.
If I found what appeared to be a great site that might give me some advertising space, I'd run it through this tool to find the most powerful subpages and try to get ads there. These are the pages that have been referenced the most, so the content must be of quality, and they probably get the most traffic and click-throughs.
If you're getting a link from a page that no other site links to, what is the true trust of that page? But if you get a link from a subpage that has lots of links to it, there's outside trust flowing there.
I sealed a deal already from one of the sites I contacted today. The first page I got an ad from had more backlinks than the site's homepage (the homepage had ~300 outside backlinks, the most powerful subpage had over 2000). This page was relevant to one of my clients, so I got an ad there, and another subpage with close to 200 backlinks got another ad for a different client.
December 4th, 2006 at 7:21 am
The only response which I have got from this tool is:
Status: Bad Request: limit exceeded
This tool sounds good, but I am not able to try it .
December 4th, 2006 at 7:28 am
A few days ago, it was doing well. But I got that “Bad Request: limit exceeded” result just today. I’m sure this is just some bug that will soon be fixed.
December 4th, 2006 at 7:58 am
that happens when we’ve exceeded the yahoo api. Try again later.
December 4th, 2006 at 8:10 am
Same error msg for me
December 4th, 2006 at 8:42 am
yea, and you’ll continue to get that error until a certain time period has passed.
Read this:
http://developer.yahoo.com/search/rate.html
just try again later.
December 4th, 2006 at 9:48 am
Get Backlinks from Pages that have Backlinks…
Backlinks are more relevant if you get them from pages that have relevant backlinks — lots of them.
……
December 4th, 2006 at 11:09 am
Jim how about letting the users input their own Yahoo application IDs.
December 4th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Jim this is an excellent tool not only for SEO for also for advertising. More links coming in … more traffic that page might see.
Thank you.
P.S. I’ll be sure to mention it on my blog.
December 4th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
Hey Jim - good writeup on the strongest subpage tool…
@Michael - that won’t work … Yahoo does the rate filter based on the IP number that the request comes from, so you have to convince Jim to build a network of proxies to allow that - it’s not about the API ids (you can get as muchas you want), it’s about the IPs
December 4th, 2006 at 12:47 pm
Christoph is correct in his response to Michael.
We can make free, and overuse will stop some tools for working for a bit….or we can charge, and limit the use…but not sure if I want to charge….at least I’ve got my own private versions that always work
December 4th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Christoph of course, silly me! Bad hair day
December 4th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Hi Jim,
I´ve tried the strongest subpage tool but it wouldn´t work for me because it automatically adds “www” to the domain name.
As I have a 301 redirect from www to non-www version on my domain there are only few links pointing to the www-version and only the main page is indexed in Yahoo.
If you fix this your tools could help a lot more webmasters.
Christian
December 4th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
Yes Jim, let us input our own Yahoo application IDs.
December 4th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
waw.. is the de yahoo api
December 4th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
waw.. is there the yahoo api now i’ve seen it
December 4th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
4h post
I’ve made myself 3 yahoo apis and with each one got the error
Bad Request: limit exceeded
December 4th, 2006 at 7:07 pm
hmmm… I already added that this “own api-key” field is useless as the IPs of Jims server are tracked…
for yahoo it is NOT an API-key (for a user, as with the Google API) but an “application-id” to help you track the requests made from one application over multiple servers/IPs
in short - that change didn’t enhance anything, except Jim won’t be able to track the use of your application anymore if you all use different api keys
if anyonedoesn’t want to register an own api key use this
“strongestsubpages”
cheers,christoph
December 5th, 2006 at 2:43 am
Awesome Tool Jim use them all, all the time. It would be sweet if we could input our own apis
December 5th, 2006 at 2:44 am
Just saw you can now that is sweet
December 5th, 2006 at 7:31 am
Christoph C. Cemper I understand now. Thank you.
So what Jim should do now, is to make a widget to put this tool on your website.
And get some link love
December 5th, 2006 at 8:15 am
Well, a local widget would require PHP/perl installation, a server that allows that kind of stuff installed on your server…
OR - a little program to run in your browser - a plugin - and do all the queries decentralized
(but that’s a scary thing - that’s also how email spam zombie bot networks are built
December 5th, 2006 at 9:09 am
Nice information there Jim… thanks for sharing…
Sam…
December 5th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
ok…looks like my programmer is experementing some…let’s see what we can do…..
December 5th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Some time ago I experimented with some websites as we were learning about linking and moving and changing links from banner ads to content links etc.
How interesting–and I can confirm this from my own little experiment–now that I can check w/Jim’s tool. We got the most traffic from the pages w/the most inbound links.
Thanks Jim.
December 5th, 2006 at 11:16 pm
[...] there should be lots of links to the linking page [...]
December 6th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
Jim, another quality post - thanks for that!
On your Yahoo API issue you have to buy a bunch of extra-IPs for your server and your programmer has to use sockets to map to those IPs… Been using that fine for 40 IPs, giving you 40×5000 = 200,000 requests per 24 hours possible to Yahoo …
Sometimes you need more than a few searches to get good data
Presell Page Man
January 10th, 2007 at 8:12 am
[...] He also continues the argument here - Get backlinks from pages with backlinks. [...]
January 29th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
I would also add blogs with heavy trackbacks to my list of sites
February 21st, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Hey Jim, once again great post. I never knew that such a tool existed until now. The only thing I found somewhat misleading was that you shouldn’t worry so much about the quantity of links (you mentioned 2000 vs 300) but rather the quality of the links. Thanks for a great blog! keep up the good work
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 am
Great Information, once again. Thanks.
March 9th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
What a great tool that Strongest Subpages tool is!
Thanks so much
March 24th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Great tools,
Specially i liked Strongest Subpages Tool very much, very usefull.
Thanks.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:04 am
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May 1st, 2007 at 12:16 pm
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July 5th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Thanks for sharing such a great tool.
Greets from Germany!
August 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Jim it’s nice information for me… thanks for sharing…
September 13th, 2007 at 2:04 am
This is indeed very sweet. We must always take precaution though to not make our links increase at an unnatural rate. It would be good if we could schedule a certain number of links on a daily basis.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Just tried strongest subpages tool and it’s very useful.
Thank you very much.
February 6th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Thanks for this information. Will you please write some words on what is the value of backlinks with different contents then your site?
Thanks!
March 18th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Its really nice information that you provide about the quality of the back links. You are quite right that you should get a back link from the page which has reasonable back links and if these links are from the same nich it will also fulfill the conditions of co-citation.