Comments on: Sorry, I won’t do SEO for your new website.

By: michael persson

michael persson — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:58:10 +0000

i was surpriced of the matter but i look back and i agree on the issue that older domains are better for SEO.

I never thought of that before but some older domains I own are much better ranked than news so must be it!!

good article

Michael

By: jimsotonna

jimsotonna — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:02:08 +0000

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By: Irishwonder’s Black Hat SEO Blog » Age Factor in Google Hurting the SERPs

Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:41:02 +0000

[...] The importance of each one of different factors influencing the SERPs in Google seems to vary across different markets nowadays - e.g. I constantly see SERPs where PR6 pages go way lower than PR0 or PR 2 pages (old news of course, PR not being a major factor any more, at least in the form available to the general public), or I have seen SERPs where 100 links beat 10,000 links, and I have even seen SERPs (gasp! what would Jim Boykin say? ) where 2-year-old sites were beating 10-year-old sites to the top spots. [...]

By: FiestasBenalmadena

FiestasBenalmadena — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:01:56 +0000

Actually, I think it depends on the scale of the project.

Getting top ranking depends on the competition not on the age of the website. I have got a site #1 ranked for low competitive keywords within 2 weeks of having registered the domain - recently.

Best way to do it - Combination of:
In bound links and content.

By: Best of Jim - 2007. - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog

Best of Jim - 2007. - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:30:56 +0000

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By: Neil Street

Neil Street — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:40:18 +0000

Thanks Dan, I appreciate that. I actually took one of your online seminars about 18 months ago, and took away the lesson that in the end, so much of “SEO” boils down to good, old-fashioned P.R. I remember the story you told about the guy who was selling upside down Christmas trees — now there’s some winning content!

In a universe long ago, before computers, I actually worked in publicity in the area of book publishing. We had to take a book and an author, make a good story out of whatever they wrote, and pitch it to the media for coverage. The key point is: “we had to make a good story out of whatever they wrote.” If I had said to my publicity director “sorry, I can’t work on new authors, I just like to promote authors who come with a track record” she’d have fired my sorry ass, and I’d have deserved it. Who wouldn’t want to work on a product, or a site, with a good track record? The real trick is to take a new, but worthwhile website, and promote that sucker on the internet. The same techniques work on the internet today as worked in book publicity years ago. It was hard work then, and it’s hard work now.

By: Dan Thies

Dan Thies — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:44:28 +0000

Neil,

That’s exactly the kind of effort I’m talking about. You “broke the rules” by investing in real content development, doing real marketing and promotion, and creating a site that actually deserved to be ranked as relevant.

If Jim has said, “no, I won’t work on your crappy site with no marketing budget,” nobody would be arguing about it.

By: Neil Street

Neil Street — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:34:30 +0000

Can we agree that “baby names” is at least a half way competitive term? It was in Hitwise’s top 10 generic phrases recently, so I guess that gives it some cred. The top 2 or 3 sites are doing well over a million unique visitors a month (easily verified through their ad sales data, etc). I built a site in this niche about a year ago, and got ranked in Google in a month or two. Been on page 2 of Google for “baby names” for about 9 months now. Been high on page 1 for lots of “decent” terms in the niche, such as Irish Baby Names, Biblical Baby Names, etc. Getting about 70,000 visitors a month, and have been since about April.
My point: most of what Jim is saying, in my opinion, doesn’t mesh with my experience. I simply researched and wrote tons of unique content, and pitched it to major media, and got some great pickup. I have a link from the Chicago Trib. from a blog at USA Today, from the San Diego paper, from About.com, and from a bunch of other, lesser sites. I don’t know why Jim makes such generalized statements about new sites. I think it’s all about how much work you put in, and whether you know what your’re doing.
The idea of a sandbox for new sites is absolute nonsense in my experience. I know of a bunch of new sites that are pulling a lot of traffic, yet are less than a year old. Some of them are using white hat SEO, some very blackhat, but no sign of a sandbox.
Well, that’s my ten cents worth.

By: CS

CS — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:40 +0000

Hi Jim,
I have to admit that as a new website creator and owner your comments are a little depressing. I have a pet classifieds site which went live a year ago yesterday. I’ve been building and improving over the last 12 months and have tons of content to ad to my site (450 breed profiles) but find it difficult to find the time to get it done quickly. I currently have the following rank in google #3 find a pet #7 pet classifieds, #6 pet ads, #19 pets for sale and several other key terms in the 30’s. I am in the yahoo directory but have had difficulty getting listed in dmoz. If you are unwilling to take on a site such as mine do you have suggestions that could be helpful?

By: Mark - Hypnosis guy

Mark - Hypnosis guy — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:14:30 +0000

I think a single new site for a competitive phrase is challenging - however I’d propose creating a small network of five 20 page sites (all new on different IPs) - and working with those (both external link building, heavy intra-site linking, a regular fresh blog on each site). I believe with a reasonable budget that would work.
(And definitely requires buying or begging some authoritative links - PR5 at least - and Yahoo Directory + a DMOZ listing right at the start).

When I look at domain age for my market everything in the top ten is 2 years older or more (damn! why didn’t I grab my domain a year earlier). And several have built small networks of sites as well.

However I believe I will crack top ten for a major competitive phrase in the next month (I’m at no. 13 now).