Comments on: SEO Leaders and Jim Rambling http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/ Internet Marketing, SEO, and Link Building. Fri, 16 May 2008 19:59:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bestmiler http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-9818 Bestmiler Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:41:11 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-9818 Congrats on the award Jim. I think your writing style is fine even though you don't prep or edit. Sometimes its best to just write what you are thinking at the moment without editing. Congrats on the award Jim. I think your writing style is fine even though you don’t prep or edit. Sometimes its best to just write what you are thinking at the moment without editing.

]]> By: robwatts http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-9025 robwatts Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:41:05 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-9025 I was tempted to blog and point to this post as 'Jim Boykin worries about Doug in the still of the night' but thought, nah cheap shot. ;) Seriously though, just on the point of this whole leader thing..a lot of it is all a bit of a buddy lovefest, the lists aren't worth that much, at least in the sense of being definitive or bang on target. Just subjective opines, from people having a bit of fun looking to throw around a few ideas and get a little attention. No harm in that of course, but thats all they can possibly ever be, ya know? Take Rands list, not a single woman on it, not a married one either for that matter, yet there are 100's of kick arse booby laden individuals out there who'd put most of us to shame. The other point I wanted to make is that there a whole lot of individuals that have affected us all. Overtime, we all learn a little bit from each other and as time goes on the benchmark gets progressively higher as people pick up the baton and run with it. NickW for example picked up the link attraction baton with TW and even coined the phrase. Todd malicoat's recent article IMO, cranked things up a little further. There are very few people who for me at least, are still really out there, by virtue of what they say and how they say it, getting regular attention in spades. Of the current runners and riders, and there are a few, I predict quite a few will just fade out as others pick up the mantle . Dont ask me which ones though, that would be just an opine too :D I was tempted to blog and point to this post as ‘Jim Boykin worries about Doug in the still of the night’ but thought, nah cheap shot. ;)

Seriously though, just on the point of this whole leader thing..a lot of it is all a bit of a buddy lovefest, the lists aren’t worth that much, at least in the sense of being definitive or bang on target. Just subjective opines, from people having a bit of fun looking to throw around a few ideas and get a little attention. No harm in that of course, but thats all they can possibly ever be, ya know?

Take Rands list, not a single woman on it, not a married one either for that matter, yet there are 100’s of kick arse booby laden individuals out there who’d put most of us to shame.

The other point I wanted to make is that there a whole lot of individuals that have affected us all. Overtime, we all learn a little bit from each other and as time goes on the benchmark gets progressively higher as people pick up the baton and run with it.
NickW for example picked up the link attraction baton with TW and even coined the phrase. Todd malicoat’s recent article IMO, cranked things up a little further.

There are very few people who for me at least, are still really out there, by virtue of what they say and how they say it, getting regular attention in spades. Of the current runners and riders, and there are a few, I predict quite a few will just fade out as others pick up the mantle . Dont ask me which ones though, that would be just an opine too :D

]]> By: stevepfseo http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8972 stevepfseo Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:14:30 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8972 Jim I was ofcourse just busting chops about Matt, anyone would be crazy not to put him and Jeremy on their list. Doug yeah, I would say if you want squeaky clean no harm in running ideas by him I can tell ya he means well. Here is my 10 You, Aaron, Seth, Jeremy, Todd, Lee, Matt, Brett, and two you might not recognize. Willie Crawford Jeff Cohen I say this based on two criteria each of you has a massive amount of great knowledge, the second you all answered my many questions. SEO is still a unknown science to 85% of the population so the ability to clearly and easily describe the process is critical. As you said a bit back there is no "silver bullet" many people expect that. Thank you for helping over the years. Sam Jim I was ofcourse just busting chops about Matt, anyone would be crazy not to put him and Jeremy on their list. Doug yeah, I would say if you want squeaky clean no harm in running ideas by him I can tell ya he means well.
Here is my 10

You, Aaron, Seth, Jeremy, Todd, Lee, Matt, Brett, and two you might not recognize.
Willie Crawford
Jeff Cohen

I say this based on two criteria each of you has a massive amount of great knowledge, the second you all answered my many questions. SEO is still a unknown science to 85% of the population so the ability to clearly and easily describe the process is critical. As you said a bit back there is no “silver bullet” many people expect that. Thank you for helping over the years.

Sam

]]> By: Fionn http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8965 Fionn Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:54:15 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8965 Top 10 SEO Leaders. I am not sure what that really means. Jim do you mean who have influenced you. If I was to make the list mine would be completely different. I think Danny Sullivan's status as a leader in the industry is without question. He put the indiustry on the map and indeed through the opportunities for exposure at SES most of the people on that list. Without Danny Sullivan and his shows woulds any of these people be on any list. I mean no disrespect I love your blog and find it very useful but this is the third list I have seen now and there seems to be a common connection that these people all know each other very well. Top 10 SEO Leaders. I am not sure what that really means. Jim do you mean who have influenced you. If I was to make the list mine would be completely different. I think Danny Sullivan’s status as a leader in the industry is without question. He put the indiustry on the map and indeed through the opportunities for exposure at SES most of the people on that list. Without Danny Sullivan and his shows woulds any of these people be on any list. I mean no disrespect I love your blog and find it very useful but this is the third list I have seen now and there seems to be a common connection that these people all know each other very well.

]]> By: Jim Boykin http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8957 Jim Boykin Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:26:29 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8957 Sam, About me putting Matt on my list....it's not smoozing (matt doesnt' even like me....you'll see he's never posted on my blog..and I know I've pissed him off a few time)...so no, it's not smoozing...it's real. A lot of what I do I think about "if matt were standing over my shoulder we he axe a site for this"...sometimes it's a yes, and those items are ones I don't blog about or do on clients sites....but others that I'm trying to make clean (clients) I'm always thinking "if matt saw this, what would he think" ...actually sometimes that face is Doug...scarry at that sounds...perhaps Doug should be on my list too...these 2 people have an influence on what I do (though I don't care as much what Doug thinks) And Yes, Lee Odden is a great mind for the exact reason you mentioned, He looks at the big "internet marketing" picture and has overall talents in many areas. Yuri, Yes, I've learned a lot from Jeremy....I've learned more from him in the past month than some of the others I've listed that I've known for years. Shoemoney is one of the true affiliate kings. 2 others I thought I should mention that have greatly influenced me are Jill Whalen and Bruce Clay. For years Jill was my guiding light in learning SEO Bruce...we'll I actually look at Bruce and his company as something I aspire to in many ways...in a sense he's my main SEO Services competitor and I'm always striving to keep up with his business model. Sam,
About me putting Matt on my list….it’s not smoozing (matt doesnt’ even like me….you’ll see he’s never posted on my blog..and I know I’ve pissed him off a few time)…so no, it’s not smoozing…it’s real. A lot of what I do I think about “if matt were standing over my shoulder we he axe a site for this”…sometimes it’s a yes, and those items are ones I don’t blog about or do on clients sites….but others that I’m trying to make clean (clients) I’m always thinking “if matt saw this, what would he think” …actually sometimes that face is Doug…scarry at that sounds…perhaps Doug should be on my list too…these 2 people have an influence on what I do (though I don’t care as much what Doug thinks)
And Yes, Lee Odden is a great mind for the exact reason you mentioned, He looks at the big “internet marketing” picture and has overall talents in many areas.

Yuri,
Yes, I’ve learned a lot from Jeremy….I’ve learned more from him in the past month than some of the others I’ve listed that I’ve known for years. Shoemoney is one of the true affiliate kings.

2 others I thought I should mention that have greatly influenced me are Jill Whalen and Bruce Clay.
For years Jill was my guiding light in learning SEO
Bruce…we’ll I actually look at Bruce and his company as something I aspire to in many ways…in a sense he’s my main SEO Services competitor and I’m always striving to keep up with his business model.

]]> By: Yuri http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8946 Yuri Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:36:44 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8946 Umm. You mean you have learned a lot from Jeremy? Now that's something. Not that he isn't a great guy and knows his stuff, but he's only been around for several years (is that 2?). And yeah, I guess the top leaders list are the ones, who the author knows best. I am sure my list would be radically different from yours. Umm. You mean you have learned a lot from Jeremy? Now that’s something. Not that he isn’t a great guy and knows his stuff, but he’s only been around for several years (is that 2?).

And yeah, I guess the top leaders list are the ones, who the author knows best. I am sure my list would be radically different from yours.

]]> By: sam http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8940 sam Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:09:54 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8940 Well seeing how I learned about most of the people you mentioned from your blog I would agree with most of your choices but Matt, come on Jim thats just blatant smoozing. :) Matts an engineer who has a major influence on the biggest search engine on the planet. I would call him the all great knowing seo :):) You forgot Lee over at Top Rank he seems to realize that seo is just part of the total Internet marking mix SAM Well seeing how I learned about most of the people you mentioned from your blog I would agree with most of your choices but Matt, come on Jim thats just blatant smoozing. :)

Matts an engineer who has a major influence on the biggest search engine on the planet. I would call him the all great knowing seo :):)

You forgot Lee over at Top Rank he seems to realize that seo is just part of the total Internet marking mix

SAM

]]> By: Miriam http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8916 Miriam Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:34:30 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8916 Congratulations on the award, Jim! Richly deserved. I guess it would be next to impossible to have a top 10 list based upon SEO performance, what with NDAs etc. But, wouldn't it be neat to see? One of the things we love on the We Build Pages site is the list of keywords you are helping clients dominate. It's really cool. It's revealing and educational when SEOs make this type of information public. For that same reason, we thought it was great when Rand Fishkin posted his fee scale. A real eye opener. Though today, of course, we are scowling at Rand for taking you off his list...ahem! Again, congrats on the award, Jim! Miriam Congratulations on the award, Jim! Richly deserved.

I guess it would be next to impossible to have a top 10 list based upon SEO performance, what with NDAs etc. But, wouldn’t it be neat to see?

One of the things we love on the We Build Pages site is the list of keywords you are helping clients dominate. It’s really cool. It’s revealing and educational when SEOs make this type of information public. For that same reason, we thought it was great when Rand Fishkin posted his fee scale. A real eye opener. Though today, of course, we are scowling at Rand for taking you off his list…ahem!

Again, congrats on the award, Jim!
Miriam

]]> By: Todd http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8911 Todd Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:48:53 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8911 Thanks for the kind comments man - you definitely know more about links than anyone I know (my recent visit confirmed this:) Lists and awards are really nice, and certainly I appreciate them - but there's SOOO many smart folks in SEO that can be learned from, it's always humbling to be put in their midst. Keep up the great work! Thanks for the kind comments man - you definitely know more about links than anyone I know (my recent visit confirmed this:)

Lists and awards are really nice, and certainly I appreciate them - but there’s SOOO many smart folks in SEO that can be learned from, it’s always humbling to be put in their midst.

Keep up the great work!

]]> By: Jim Boykin http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8909 Jim Boykin Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:07:01 +0000 http://www.jimboykin.com/seo-leaders-and-jim-rambling/#comment-8909 Halfdeck - Great Points and mentions. All those you mentioned are extremely noteworthy. and Tedster should have been on my short list above. Halfdeck - Great Points and mentions.
All those you mentioned are extremely noteworthy.
and Tedster should have been on my short list above.

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