Comments on: Software vs. Manual Link Building and Management.

By: Tips for finding the best pages to get links from. - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog

Wed, 03 May 2006 22:24:55 +0000

[...] More: This is stuff that you have to do by hand (forget automating link building, keep it under the radar, and of course you don’t want links on "link pages", and you want your ads to be within content, and if you can slip in some good co citation, even better. [...]

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:13:31 +0000

Dave,
your answer is in this post
http://www.jimboykin.com/screw-the-sandbox-buy-and-old-site/
Jim

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:07:26 +0000

Jim,
This is my first read of your blog but I commend you on your straightforward approach. I’ve added you to my reading list and look forward to future posts.

I also found it interesting that you’re outright offering to buy valuable sites that you find. Do you bring them over to your own server or do you keep them all seperated to maintain seperate IP ranges? Do you then optimize them for advertising or how do you make them worth what you pay for them?

-Dave

By: Online shopping

Online shopping — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:17:12 +0000

Yeah Jim:
You’re right. It is dumb to leave footprints when doing automated linking that can be traced back and used to boink you in the future.
Ikey

By: Ed Kohler

Ed Kohler — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:42:34 +0000

I’ve found some of Arelis’ functions useful. It’s a good way to track the status of link building, and build lists of prospective link sites. However, it can get ugly if used for automatic link solicitations. Not recommended.

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:02:55 +0000

Anne,
Nope…won’t say it’s a fact that they won’t count…some might count for something…some might count for nothing….but I wouldn’t bet on them counting for much, if any.

I know that most of the pages we were working on a few years with linksmanger got Boinked (on 30+ sites) …but could also be because we did other dumb things like naming our links pages things like “links-43.html” as well as I broke all the rules that I later wrote on a page called “What a links page should Not look like”

….I’d say Google doesn’t like automatic link exchange software, and probably has filters in place to take care of these having an impact.

By: Anne Howard

Anne Howard — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:49:58 +0000

Hi Jim, so are you saying that it is a FACT that google will NOT count my backlinks if the linksmanager.com is not not counting them? If that is a fact, I will drop out of linksmanager all together. I just like the setup, the control panel etc..aaah…well hey, I was interviewed by the New York Times yesterday. That was the highlight of my week! good ol’Public Relations.
Anne Howard
RushPRnews, public relations and media services

By: Jason Golod

Jason Golod — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:03:36 +0000

heh, Jim you crack me up. I like your “been around the block” attitude and it comes out in how you speak and write. I listened to you at Vegas PubCon briefly and I chuckled then and I am now. I agree with your thoughts and sentiment on the commercial link building software out there. I have much of it…I use none of it. If there is something I need, we usually build it, but that is for evaluation and not trying to gain links by automating email, etc. Just added you to my RSS reader. Cheers.

By: Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog » Blog Archive » Link Building Software - is it worth it?

Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:22:07 +0000

[...] but anyways…there’s a good discussion going on over in the comments of the post about Software vs. Manual Link Building and Management. [...]

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:03:00 +0000

Anne,
You might want to think about leaving a “footprint” on your pages which linksmanager does….what I mean by that is that (going to a random page in your links directory), I see this piece of code for example:

document.LMClickTrack.src=”http://www.linksmanager .com/cgi-bin/lookup/click.cgi?userid=rushprnews&id=162″

That can be known as a “footprint”…let’s pretend that google says “ya know, links manager is only used by those trying to game our system….how could be stop this….hum…any page that has the url of linksmanager.com in them, don’t count those pages” ….now you may see these pay may show as backlinks…but do they count…ya know…they just might not mean squat.

Using popular programs that leave footprints on your pages is dangerious in that those pages might not pass link value….and if you’re getting links from these types of pages, they might not count as well.

I was one of the first people to use linksmanger back in the day…in fact I populated it with lots of PR7 and PR8’s and had a grand ole time for a while…but we dropped it a few years ago when we felt it might not be worth the time to mess with anymore.

Also, check out the links above that I gave to Ikey (Hoe Business) - if you’re using linksmanger, these ideas are someting you might want to consider as well.