Comments on: Many say Liberty Names of America are Scammers

By: Lulu

Lulu — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:01:25 +0000

I was scammed by this pathetic company and I reported them to the Better Business Bureau. Apparently, they have a long list of compliants posted. I got a check from LNOA 2 weeks after filing the compliant (this one did not bounce). This company sent me an invoice stating I had to renew my domain name with them…..Ridiculous……

By: Ronnie Osborn

Ronnie Osborn — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:04:22 +0000

The Probate Judge Office in Dekalb County Alabama fell for the same scam. The invoice looked great and went right through without any problem. My web site is through a private firm. It was he that informed me of this scam and not to fall for it. Too late !!! My web company contacted Liberty Names of Anerica Inc. 15-6400 Millcreek Drive Suite 363 in Mississauga, Ontario l5N 3E7. They issued a refund check made payable to probate Judge Office. The Bank was TD CANADA TRUST Woobine Centre 500 rexdale Blvd. Etobicoke, Ontario M9W 6K5 Canada. This check was returned to me. No such account noted. This is a real bank but a bogus check. My question is why they even send a refund. What purpose does this serve. My web master was more upset than I. This has was not the first time this company had pulled this on him. He wrote many letters to many people about the way his client are being scammed by many different companies of this caliber. Thanks for your web site Jim. This has helped me vent. I guess this is the type of world we live in today.
Judge Ronnie Osborn
Fort Payne Alabama
judgeronnieosborn@dekalbcountyal.us

By: SmartyPantsinBrooklyn

SmartyPantsinBrooklyn — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:02:37 +0000

I am not an unintelligent person, and I almost fell for this letter from the patriots at Liberty Names of America (that name is so amusing). I received the letter Friday.

My domain is with Yahoo, and my first thought at seeing what looks and is worded exactly like an invoice, was perhaps Yahoo transferred hosting of some domains to another company. That might be dumb to Monsieur Pierre here, but I don’t care what he thinks, he’s not human. To explain we humans, it’s playing on people’s best intents to pay their bills, and eagerness to maintain their professional domain names, to send them an imitation invoice like that. This company knows exactly what it’s doing. It’s completely normal to have a moment where you’re trying to figure this invoice out and it might take a while to realize it’s a scam. If it didn’t work so well on people, gee you know Pierre, this company probably wouldn’t bother to do it.

My solution was to send a mocking letter back in the enclosed addressed envelope they provided, telling them their company is pathetic for having to trick people into giving them their business. Then I told the person who opens the letter to quit, if they had any pride. It might not do much but it made me feel better! Maybe that would be effective method of mass protest of this scam pfishing, everyone sending insults back to them in the envelopes this company provides.

By: J. C. Knowles

J. C. Knowles — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:32:11 +0000

PISSED OFF.
I have just discovered my Accounts Payable department paid the fake invoice and Liberty Name of America is now trying to transfer my domain from Network Solutions. Now I have to dump some expensive resources in order to get a insignificant $85 refund (I will have a little beef with accounting later.). Anyways, if you look that the fine print, Liberty Names of America is a reseller for TierraNet Inc. d/b/a DomainDiscover.

TierraNet Inc. d/b/a DomainDiscover
9573 Chesapeake Dr., Suite 100
San Diego, California 92123
United States
858-560-8120
brian@domaindiscover.com

I would suggest that everyone who reads this to file a complaint with ICANN (internic.org) and recommend that ICANN revoke
TierraNet Inc. d/b/a DomainDiscover as an Accredited Registrar for allowing their resellers to use such deceptive practices.

http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi

By: Registrar Worker

Registrar Worker — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:41:11 +0000

I work for a domain registrar, and I receive calls regarding this company all the time. We used to get calls regarding a company also based out of the Buffalo area called Domain Registry of America. Just as those calls stopped, we started getting these LNOA calls.

If you see one, throw it in the recycling bin and contact your registrar right away! Most them (including the one I work with) are looking to get as many examples of these as possible in attempt to issue a cease and desist.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:18:07 +0000

I got a letter from them today so I just straight up called the guy. Some guy named Oscar answered all unprofessional like I just woke him up. I told him that I felt this letter was falsification and he immediately just said, “no it’s not falsification, just throw away the letter” and he wouldn’t talk to me at all about it anymore. The domain they sent me about is linkvertise.org which isn’t up for renewal, is registered with godaddy, and is only 1 of like 10 sites that I own (so what about the rest?) so yeah he kept repeating.. please just throw away the letter.. so I kept it cause I want to make a copy and write a few blog entries to help other people that would like to do some research by providing a few more links in Google about them.

By: Cal

Cal — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:54:57 +0000

http://search.buffalo.bbb.org/codbrep.html?ID=17003127

Interesting link to Better Business Bureau of Upstate New York’s file on these guys…

By: Cal

Cal — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:51:00 +0000

Pierre - Here is the very most important problem I have with the “bill” I received. The word “Renewal” on my “Bill” implies, by definition, that I had registered my domain with LNOA to begin with. This is where I see the biggest deception. The only company I can “Renew” my domain with is the one that I currently own my domain through. To me, that was the most deceptive thing about the “bill” I received. I don’t think LNOA will be receiving the Better Business Bureau seal anytime soon.

To address your point, if LNOA is merely trying to “provide a service at a less expensive cost”, then they should let the price speak for itself. Drawing additional attention to the offer through deceptive phrasing that implies to the reader that there is already an existing business relationship or through implied threats of loss of internet identity is insidious.

The letter I received implied there would be complications with my domain name in the future by not using LNOA. The letter also implied that the .net and .org names for my domain were “Available” (when in fact one of them is most definitely NOT “Available”…not until 2010 anyway).

By: Geoff

Geoff — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:43:52 +0000

Pierre: Godaddy, $8.95 per year.

Either you are getting ripped off or you are confused as to the difference between a registrar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_registrar) and a host ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_host ).

a.) they [Liberty] are not cheaper.
b.) Pierre either received a different ad than I did, or work for them and is lying, which based on their ads would surpise me exactly not at all.
c.) I am actually responding to counter Pierre’s implication that those commenting on this board are naive/paranoid/unobservant etc.

By: Susan

Susan — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:22:05 +0000

I just spoke to a guy at Liberty and asked him to refund my money because I decided to stay at register.com and he was very pleasant and promised to send me a refund check by the 15th of October.