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	<title>Comments on: Get a site back in Google/Yahoo, get $300.</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it an oldie Jim, ie. a 302 / 301 issue... JS baiting the spider possibly???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it an oldie Jim, ie. a 302 / 301 issue&#8230; JS baiting the spider possibly???</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with Rand on this one. Maybe you can identify the competitor by looking at other keywords. It's not always a guy from the most desired SERP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Rand on this one. Maybe you can identify the competitor by looking at other keywords. It&#8217;s not always a guy from the most desired SERP.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pratt</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned with thing being mistaken as spam thing.  Yesterday I tried a tool called pingoat.com that pings services.  After checking the boxes of what to ping I hit enter and it said "you have been blacklisted" and it put me on a list of splogs they are reporting on http://splogspot.com/recent wtf?

Here is where it relates, there are so many ways that people can report things that you could end up being thrown in the trash by someone who manually edits if they determine you are not good.  The above is a tool that automatically adds you to a splog list then asks you to register and join their forum if you want to get out, that is pure evil.

All this inaccurate tattle tailing has to end...

And I have sites that are several months old that do not show in Yahoo or Google for anything.  They are good honest sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned with thing being mistaken as spam thing.  Yesterday I tried a tool called pingoat.com that pings services.  After checking the boxes of what to ping I hit enter and it said &#8220;you have been blacklisted&#8221; and it put me on a list of splogs they are reporting on <a href="http://splogspot.com/recent" rel="nofollow nofollow">http://splogspot.com/recent</a> wtf?</p>
<p>Here is where it relates, there are so many ways that people can report things that you could end up being thrown in the trash by someone who manually edits if they determine you are not good.  The above is a tool that automatically adds you to a splog list then asks you to register and join their forum if you want to get out, that is pure evil.</p>
<p>All this inaccurate tattle tailing has to end&#8230;</p>
<p>And I have sites that are several months old that do not show in Yahoo or Google for anything.  They are good honest sites.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfox</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a removal request being submitted to Google and Yahoo by an unknown party - i.e. competitor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a removal request being submitted to Google and Yahoo by an unknown party - i.e. competitor?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't sweat the link buys Jim. Matt enjoys wagging the finger for them but I believe their value is just being discounted/ignored. Unless you are buyings schwacks of links, I'd accept the finger wagging and send in a reinclusion request. IF/When you get a response, at least they should clarify whether it is technical or because of rogue SEO practices.

I find the responses are usually to vague to be useful, but at least it should narrow the field.

Have you looked into subdomain issues? We had a site get it's arse kicked because of wildcard subdomain resolutions.
www.site.com
site.com
garbage.site.com
randomtxt.site.com

Would all dish up the content and leave the subs intact, resulting in several hundred thousand extra pages being indexed - then eventually being banned from Yahoo! and Google (though not on the same day). All wildcard subs now redirect to www and all is well.

Maybe a competitor saw this whole and put up some links for Goog and slurp to 'find'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t sweat the link buys Jim. Matt enjoys wagging the finger for them but I believe their value is just being discounted/ignored. Unless you are buyings schwacks of links, I&#8217;d accept the finger wagging and send in a reinclusion request. IF/When you get a response, at least they should clarify whether it is technical or because of rogue SEO practices.</p>
<p>I find the responses are usually to vague to be useful, but at least it should narrow the field.</p>
<p>Have you looked into subdomain issues? We had a site get it&#8217;s arse kicked because of wildcard subdomain resolutions.<br />
<a href="http://www.site.com" rel="nofollow nofollow">http://www.site.com</a><br />
site.com<br />
garbage.site.com<br />
randomtxt.site.com</p>
<p>Would all dish up the content and leave the subs intact, resulting in several hundred thousand extra pages being indexed - then eventually being banned from Yahoo! and Google (though not on the same day). All wildcard subs now redirect to www and all is well.</p>
<p>Maybe a competitor saw this whole and put up some links for Goog and slurp to &#8216;find&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: randfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>randfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said - watch out for a competitor with a beeline to just the right spam specialists. And Jim - buying links shouldn't hurt you according to the powers that be... It should just prevent those pages from passing rank... Anything else would be... well frankly... a weapon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said - watch out for a competitor with a beeline to just the right spam specialists. And Jim - buying links shouldn&#8217;t hurt you according to the powers that be&#8230; It should just prevent those pages from passing rank&#8230; Anything else would be&#8230; well frankly&#8230; a weapon. <img src='http://www.jimboykin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rand...yea, that's the plan after we clean up all the backlinks...if I sent it in now I'm sure the response would be "hey, you're buying links"....who me?? I still find it hard to image that they'd zap me when the others in the top 10 are so much worse and weren't touched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rand&#8230;yea, that&#8217;s the plan after we clean up all the backlinks&#8230;if I sent it in now I&#8217;m sure the response would be &#8220;hey, you&#8217;re buying links&#8221;&#8230;.who me?? I still find it hard to image that they&#8217;d zap me when the others in the top 10 are so much worse and weren&#8217;t touched.</p>
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		<title>By: randfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>randfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was spam reported at the same time, that could have done it, Jim. It's not hard to imagine - a competitor looks, emails Yahoo! &#38; Google (maybe they have a personal connection to one or both) and ZAP!, the site's gone.

I'd try a few emails through the Goog webmasters form with "canonicalpages" as the subject line - tell them you moved servers and want to know what happened :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was spam reported at the same time, that could have done it, Jim. It&#8217;s not hard to imagine - a competitor looks, emails Yahoo! &amp; Google (maybe they have a personal connection to one or both) and ZAP!, the site&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d try a few emails through the Goog webmasters form with &#8220;canonicalpages&#8221; as the subject line - tell them you moved servers and want to know what happened <img src='http://www.jimboykin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;DaveN&lt;/a&gt;, if you're out there, I'd love you to look at this. Maybe even &lt;a href="http://www.truelocal.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jake&lt;/a&gt; too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/" rel="nofollow nofollow">DaveN</a>, if you&#8217;re out there, I&#8217;d love you to look at this. Maybe even <a href="http://www.truelocal.com/" rel="nofollow nofollow">Jake</a> too <img src='http://www.jimboykin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.jimboykin.com/get-a-site-back-in-googleyahoo-get-300/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,
I thought also that maybe the big G and Y had done a crack down...but the top 10 are .edu's, .gov's, or Major link buyers....I mean the guy at #1 has 1/2 million backlinks that are all major over the radar buys...our site was #18....wouldn't think they'd go after #18 and leave the rest....btw, #4 is a "presell page" on a major newspaper...kinda like the wordpress fiasco thing... I can't see them leaving this stuff, and dumping the guy at #18 who's actually pretty clean compared to the rest (besides the .edu and .gov)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,<br />
I thought also that maybe the big G and Y had done a crack down&#8230;but the top 10 are .edu&#8217;s, .gov&#8217;s, or Major link buyers&#8230;.I mean the guy at #1 has 1/2 million backlinks that are all major over the radar buys&#8230;our site was #18&#8230;.wouldn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d go after #18 and leave the rest&#8230;.btw, #4 is a &#8220;presell page&#8221; on a major newspaper&#8230;kinda like the wordpress fiasco thing&#8230; I can&#8217;t see them leaving this stuff, and dumping the guy at #18 who&#8217;s actually pretty clean compared to the rest (besides the .edu and .gov)</p>
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