Comments on: Damned to Google Hell - Supplemental Results

By: Bilal Qayyum SEO Expert

Bilal Qayyum SEO Expert — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:06:33 +0000

Hey one thing i Forget to tell you that to resubmit your sitemap to Google . this helps you to get your pages indexed again….

By: Scott Hein

Scott Hein — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:38:51 +0000

Hello… Looks like this thread may have run out of steam a while back, but, I was just wondering if someone could help me understand my supplemental index problem. On my site, http://www.poolgeek.com, it appears as though I have only 7 pages indexed in the main index, the remaining 980 supplemental. Now, we just went through a major redesign, creating original, unique content, cross linking strategies, etc…. Just wondering if anyone could give me advice on why Google doesn’t see the majority of our site as relevant to the main index. Thanks for the help…

By: root123

root123 — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:47:57 +0000

Create a highly optimized landing page and try a few bucks with Google AdWords campaign. You might get a revisit soon.

By: Bilal

Bilal — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:41:05 +0000

Thanks for the details.

Well I like your idea of separating sitemaps to target different regions. It is better to keep the targeted domains for a particular region. Like you can create a separate xml file for the region Australia. This could also enhance search engine visibility for a particular region. Similarly you can create a separte country map and place it for Denmark and use a separtator (variable) for a particular region, and also mention this in your .htaccess file. Besides, use of translator will enhance your search engine visibility more than you have had.

Thanks

Bilal
SEO Expert

By: KoenG

KoenG — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:43:37 +0000

Hi Bilal,
Thanks for looking into this.
About the sitemaps: Google says that 50,000 links is a maximum for a sitemap. As I have approx. 47,000 links right now, I thought it would be better to split the sitemap and a logical and easy way was to split per country. As a result I have xml files with 1,000 links but also with 21,000 links. In the past I had put everything into 1 xml sitemap (and the database query to build the sitemap ordered by country) and noticed that Google only indexed the first 10,000 links or so. Serving Google multiple files should cause Google to index at least a part of every file, I hoped. Apparently it doesn’t make a difference.
On every subdomain I have placed the same sitemaps but pointing to the correct subdomain.
Regarding the first issue: translations. I have not used Translator. I have built the application myself and I just use a different set of variables for the different languages (stored in the database). It works well and Google has started to index some pages in Dutch, but on the other hand, they also started to drop pages in English (more pages dropped than added). I have not changed any other SEO factor on my site so the only reason why this is happening seems to be the subdomains.

By: Bilal

Bilal — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:45:14 +0000

First of all I’d like to give answer of your second question. Yes it is true that XML sitemaps are added to indicate crawler to visit the pages over the site nodes. But as per you, the sitemaps are submitted locally. if you are talking about country sitemaps, there is another procedure of positing and helding them within the regions. The same as you did with general sitemaps. Now I’m going to give answer of your first questions. I want to know have you used translator in the site or not? then i may be able to say something…

Thanks

Bilal SEO Expert

By: KoenG

KoenG — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:07:51 +0000

I am running an hotel directory in three different languages. Because Google only indexed English pages and these pages also showed up (but rarely on first page in SERP’s ) in the Dutch results, I decided to create sub domains for the different languages, hoping that Google would index all languages and thus improve the position.
However, since I have done this change, the number of indexed pages has dropped (as did the number of visitors unfortunately).
Could this be a penalty for duplicate content (despite the fact of the translations)? And if so, what would be the best way to have all translated content into the indexes without punishment?

Second question: I created an XML sitemap with subsitemaps for the hotels per country. The largest sitemap (+ 21,000 links) doesn’t get indexed by Google but neither they give any errors on the sitemap. How is this possible? (sitemaps for other countries are used normally for crawling by Google).

By: Bial

Bial — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:02:40 +0000

Hello

As far as supplementary results are concerned, they are no more longer exsist. Well I may suggest you to submit your google sitemap again and wait for atleast 3 days to make sure your pages will become indexed.

By: Tony Dean

Tony Dean — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:30:40 +0000

We have recently (3 months ago) updated our site and have seen pages begin to go into supplemental. Although Google is not showing them as such, over 90% are there. Even new pages after their intial scan are either supplemental or not indexed at all. Any suggestions?

By: Bilal (SEO expert)

Bilal (SEO expert) — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:10:26 +0000

Well Mandar I’d say that you are right, but right now google has just eliminated its supplementary category from its part. I’m the one who have been cheered this and got to know when I posted this on my website that “Google has eliminated its supplementary Category” I’ve recieved lot of emails regarding whether it is still there (supplementary index) or not. and my answer would probably is not. Now I’m going to give you the answer of your question. If we go back then supplementary results pages always hurt the page rank, its popularity and having overall bad affect. Supplementary pages never goes in a good favour of any website owner. Who says that supplementary results got nothing to do with the website. It must hurt the ranking of the website. But we never ingonre the damping factors which can cause supplementary results, i.e. never stolen the content, nor copied, unique page title, linking building solid, quality link gathering. thats all.. if you still want to know about google supplementary results, then you have to visit read my blog post at freeseosemtraining.com/blog/google-eliminated-supplementary-results.htm
Hope the information will be enough to understand whether the supplementary area is existing or not.

Thanks

Bilal Qayyum (SEO Expert)