Archive for January, 2007

Putting a Price on a Link - Jim’s Value Indicators.

Tuesday, January 9th, 2007

I’ve been asked a few times recently how we evaluate the value of a link.

Maybe one day I’ll make a public tool that shows how we value a link….but not today.

However, I will show 2 screenshots of one of our earlier link value tools….Version B4 (We’ve been through several versions, and continue to modify and improve it).

http://www.webuildpages.com/lvt-tool/lvt-tool.htm (Older version)
(don’t ask me about the co-citation stuff please….I’m not going to comment on that, and it’s changed some since that version).

I also blacked out the price we’d charge for a link like that.

Keep in mind that we don’t go for homepage links (99% only powerful subpages), and we work on getting links within the content area of webpages (something that looks like this), and sometimes we add co-citation (something I don’t want to talk about today). And yes, if we can get our ads above the fold, with a nice banner to boot, that’s even better (but not always possible).

So there’s how we valued links last month.

How much do you think a link like this is worth? (Taking into account that we don’t know how much traffic this ad will bring….so you’re guesses on worth will have to be strictly on the link value, not on the traffic value (sorry Matt)).

Anyone out there think that this is evil?

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SEO Leaders and Jim Rambling

Tuesday, January 9th, 2007

Last week I got lucky and was voted fist place in Search Engine Journal’s yearly awards for "Best Link Building Blog 2006".
Thanks Loren for the award, and thank you to those who voted! It was this award program last year that helped both Stuntdubl and me to get much more exposure to our blogs and it was real easy to see the results of that award last year in the Alexa traffic rank spike at that time last year.

Somehow I barely squeeked by Stuntdubl….I think because Todd only blogs 5-10% on link building…where I tend to blog 90% on link building…but as far as blogging goes, in my mind, Todd’s way better than I am. Todd tends to spend time preparing and writing, and editing. I know Todd’s got several posts that he is working on at anytime, all yet unpublished until he’s polished them off….me, well, I don’t prepare, I write something that’s on my mind in about 5 minutes….totally unpolished, unresearched, and just "quick thoughts"…Todd…we’ll he writes blog posts that look like college thesis papers….So I got lucky with the award…if the award were for anything other than the specific item of "Link Building" Todd would crush me (all since that’s my writing focus and not Todd’s full writing focus).

Todd’s stopping by the office this afternoon and I’d tease him about me beating him with this award…but he’s too humble to make doing that fun….so we’ll just compare SEO notes and show off the SEO things we’re doing at the moment (the things we don’t blog about).

The Link Building Blog from Patrick and Andy scored 3rd in the awards.  Andy’s planning on stopping by in March for a visit with Todd and I, so I’m really looking forward to drinking out on the town with Todd and Andy. There’s nothing better than sharing brew and under the radar SEO Talk with fellow SEO’s.

This past week I was also named by Didier Bizimungu as one of the Top 10 SEO Leaders….but Rand quickly told me that I wasn’t one of the top 10 SEO leaders…darn Rand…hehe.

Who are my 10….um….off the top of my head (which means tomorrow I’ll kick myself for forgetting several)…and in no particular order.

These are 10 who have influenced me a lot over the years.

What 10 have influenced you the most or that you feel are the leaders?

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If it’s not a Pagerank 4 or higher, it’s worthless.

Tuesday, January 9th, 2007

You’d be suprised at some of the answers I get to questions I post on the webuildpages.com contact form.

A few days ago one guy asked me how many links we can get in an hour….needless to say, what he was seeking, we’re not selling.

Yesterday someone filled our our form stating that he was seeking hundreds of "quality relevant links" but they needed to be at least all from "PageRank 4 or higher pages". Since it’s being reported that Google’s updating their Green Fairy Dust today, it looks like a good day to dispel some Pagerank Myths.

I’m kind of suprised at how many people are still stuck in some SEO technique timewarp of what was effective in 1999. For those of you who weren’t into SEO in the 90’s, I’ll give you a brief story of why there’s the thought that links from PR4 or higher pages are ones that "count".

Traveling back to the 90’s and early 2000’s….back when there were these monthy Google Dances. Back then, about once a month, there’d be a big shuffle in rankings….and those rankings would stay pretty stable for the month, until the next dance day. On the Google Dance day, not only would rankings shift, but so too would the Google Toolbar. Pagerank would update accross the board, and the backlinks numbers would also change….and they were mostly accurate except for 1 thing.

The one inaccuracy was that Google would only show backlinks that came from pages that were at least a Pagerank 4 or higher (so we’d all work to get our links pages to at least a PR4 so people would trade with us…hehe, silly us).  Our misguided thought back then was that links from pages that were below a Pagerank 4 must be worthless since Google didn’t show those….the toolbar fairydust SEO manipulation had already started back then….but most of us just didn’t know it. (Meaning I’m sure that links from PR0 - 3 were counting….we just didn’t know it (I’m guilty)).

Now, in 2007 rankings change daily, Pagerank updates about every 3-6 months…and is based on a score calculated 3-6 months prior to the updating day….saying that Pagerank is Stale is an understatement….also saying that pagerank effects rankings is a lie.

One of my link team Ninjas was showing me an email they got back from someone stating something to the effect of:

"I can tell that you don’t know about SEO, so let me give you some lessons.  The page you’re requesting an ad on doesn’t have Pagerank yet, so there’s no value. I can put your ad on our links page that is a Pagerank 4 since there’s much more value there."

our response was something like:

"I’m not sure what pagerank is, but the page I requested is really the one we’d really like the ad on. We think visitors to that page will find this ad relevant and will click through to this advertisor…. (and then we proceeded to get this ad for a "Ninja steal").

Pagerank 0… SO WHAT I say! Our ninjas don’t look at Pagerank….we’re not puppets on Google’s Pagerank Strings.

This particular page was about 2 months old….it wasn’t showing fairy dust (pagerank) yet….but it had a cache from the day prior and it had around 50 backlinks from other sites to that exact page. It was a quality page, it was relevant to our client, and our ad should get some clicks as well…. the fact that it was a pagerank 0 doesn’t mean squat to me.

Does it mean anything to you?

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Many say Liberty Names of America are Scammers

Monday, January 1st, 2007

A few months ago I got a letter in the snail mail from Liberty Names of America that looked like an invoice for a domain that was set to expire shortly. I had to give it a second look, since I knew that I had never registered a domain through a company called Liberty Names of America. My first thought was "you scammers!, Nice try….damn, how people pay these because they have no idea?"  I tossed this letter in my computer bag, and meant to blog about it…but time went by and I never did…..until today.

Today I received an email from one of the hosting companies that we do business with stating:

Recently some of our customers became victims of a domain renewal fraud by the company called \"Liberty Names of America\". They send out domain transfer agreements, which look like invoices for domain renewals ($25 per year).

Be informed, that ROUThost.com has nothing to do with this company and for all domain and hosting renewals you will be contacted directly by ROUThost.com. You are free to disregard any e-mail or written communication from \"Liberty Names of America\". They have no power over your domain name unless you choose to sign up for their service.

Which reminded me of that "invoice" I was going to blog about.

I’m sure many of you have seen these letters….I found this copy of one of these letters for LIberty Names of America online (pdf) (scroll down past the first page).

How can they legally get away with sending what appear to be "invoices" when what they’re really trying to do is get your domain moved into their register account….what many are saying that amounts to Domain name hijacking.

I mean just run a search in Google for Liberty Names of America and see results like:

    Can’t something be done?

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